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God is busy, may I help you? / Dieu est occupé, puis-je vous aider?

You can leave me a message in English or French, at the bottom. Click here. Yann 22:13, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Terrible quality cropped photos

File:Anderlecht-Cercle Brugge 2-0, 27-12-2023 (Louis Patris).jpg
File:Anderlecht-Cercle Brugge 2-0, 27-12-2023 (Mario Stroeykens).jpg

Hello @Yann,

From a photo I uploaded, were 2 photos cropped with result 2 totally terrible unrecognizable football players on it because zoomed in way too much.

I requested removal but that was refused: here and here. Maybe I could try a removal request again but formulate/argument it better with your help, please.

The admin encouraged me to take better photos of these players, but now I am discouraged to upload any pictures of football matches if such terrible zoomed in cropped photos are allowed. We should handle some quality level here. It's just common decency if any.


Thank Sidney.Cortez (talk) 12:59, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Sidney.Cortez: Hi,
The quality is indeed very poor, but we do not delete pictures which are in use on some Wikimedia projects, unless there is some copyright issue. If you find replacements for these pictures, then you can nominate for deletion again. Regards, Yann (talk) 15:27, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
It's sad to see that is has come so far that wikicommons disregards any quality standards just for the sake of having images.
What's the policy discussion board here on wikicommons, please.
Sidney.Cortez (talk) 21:27, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
(talk page stalker) The keeps were according to policy. Commons cannot overrule other projects that have decided to use a photo (copyright is one of the few exceptions to this policy). COM:VP is the general discussion forum while COM:VPP is for purposals. Abzeronow (talk) 22:16, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thanks.
But what about the subject Defamation under Legal issues of Commons:Photographs of identifiable people as an argument to remove the two photos: Images must not unfairly ridicule or demean the subject.
Sidney.Cortez (talk) 22:48, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
A badly cropped photograph taken at a public sporting event is hardly defamation (but I am not a lawyer). Abzeronow (talk) 23:09, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
It says: "Defamation is both a legal and moral issue; therefore, Commons does not base decisions on whether the subject is able or likely to sue." So legally you're right, morally you're wrong.
I don't think people in general won't like it at all if a photo of that low quality would be used to identify them. For example on the employee intranet list of your work space. It's basically flat out insulting. Sidney.Cortez (talk) 23:38, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
The quality of Wikimedia portraits is a known issue. If these players in particular are troubled by their photos, I would be willing to see if I could find the time to go to Belgium next year to photograph them while I'm in France for Wikimania. Other than that, if you could take another photograph of them in the meantime, the other projects could decide to use that. If the other projects decide to stop using them, of course I'd be willing to delete these. Abzeronow (talk) 23:53, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Here's another uploaded image of mine that recently got butchered.
I can go on like that but my point is it's not just about those two or three photos of mine but it's a matter of principle. If you as experienced/seasoned wikicommons administrators - who really have the best intentions - recognize that the quality is a known issue than I can only ask to react on it. If the "inuse" project stands in our way then fight it.
I don't know anything about the Commons projects and so on and you're probably thinking: easy for you to complain. But it always got to start with someone to stick his/her/their finger up and say: This is going wrong direction here.
That said. I do appreciate both your work. And took your advice to try to remove the photos from other projects.
Sidney.Cortez (talk) 23:04, 9 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
(talk page stalker) Per COM:INUSE, Commons welcomes illustrations of all kinds if local Wikimedia projects find them educationally useful. It is important to emphasize that Commons should not override or impose decisions on local Wikipedias regarding which images to use, regardless of their perceived quality or educational value. Deleting an image solely because it is deemed low quality would amount to editorializing Wikipedia articles and their content, where other editors (or even multiple editors through talk page consensus) have already decided to use that specific image. Concerns about image usage are best addressed on the talk pages of the local articles or projects where the images are used, allowing the community to decide whether to keep, replace, or remove them. Commons respects the autonomy of local projects in making these choices. --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 23:35, 9 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thanks everyone, I know my options now. Sidney.Cortez (talk) 23:50, 9 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Just FYI: If you as the photographer and copyright holder feel embarrassed by the quality of these derivatives of your work, Creative Commons terms allow you to request different attribution (such as using another name) or even to have attribution removed entirely. --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 23:54, 9 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Hello @Abzeronow,
Those two images are not in use anymore by other projects. I've replaced them with fair better versions.
Could you delete the two mentioned above now, please?
Thank you, Sidney.Cortez (talk) 23:30, 24 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Sidney.Cortez: I deleted 2 pictures. Yann (talk) 15:44, 25 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, Sidney.Cortez (talk) 11:55, 26 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Images

Hi Yann, can you help me delete the images I uploaded? I didn't know they were protected by copyright as they were provided to me by the daughter of the man i'm writing about. Thank you! Mila Jonis (talk) 07:50, 11 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Mila Jonis: Hi, Sorry, I am quite busy today. I can delete the files if you can't reach the copyright holder. Thanks for your message. Yann (talk) 15:17, 11 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Sadly she can’t reach them so yes whenever it suits you the best I would really appreciate if you could delete them. Thank you! Mila Jonis (talk) 19:02, 11 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Mila Jonis: So why did you upload them again with {{Permission_pending}}? Yann (talk) 19:59, 11 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Because I had received a notice about the exifs of the file so I thought that was the problem. I later understood it was the copyright and there I contacted Mirandolina and she told me she couldn’t reach the owner. Mila Jonis (talk) 21:47, 12 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
OK, I deleted the files. Yann (talk) 15:01, 13 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Pierre Paul Heckly

Peut on parler des photos que j'ai importé pour la future page Piere Paul Heckly

Merci 2courson (talk) 15:43, 11 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@2courson: Bonjour, Il faut une autorisation écrite du détenteur des droits d'auteur pour copier des images qui ne sont pas dans le domaine public ou sous une licence libre. Merci de lire COM:L/fr. Si vous avez cette autorisation, voyez COM:VRT/fr pour la procédure. Cordialement, Yann (talk) 15:45, 11 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Son fils va me faire un mail avec la liste des photos. 2courson (talk) 09:01, 13 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Bonjour Yann
J'ai envoyé un ma&il à permission-fr@Wikimedia.org
J'ai transféré le mail reçu du fils de Pierre Paul Heckly que voici
Est ce que cela suffit?
Le 14 Août 2025, à Buchillon.
À qui de droit.
Je soussigné, Louis-Vincent Heckly, né le 27 Janvier 1974 à Saint Germain en Laye, France, fils unique de Pierre-Paul Heckly, né le 15 Janvier 1933 à Saint Germain en Laye, France, certifie par la présente donner tout pouvoir à Monsieur Arnaud de Courson afin de réaliser ou de faire réaliser une page Wikipédia pour mon défunt père.
Je certifie aussi que tout support image et/ou document, article de presse (liste non exhaustive) fourni par mes soins s’entend libre de droits, libre à la publication, libre à la diffusion web, et précédé lorsque nécessaire de la mention « Copyright © (…) - tous droits réservés ».
Pour faire valoir ce que de droit,
Louis Heckly
Louis Heckly
Gréement Courant S.A.
Route de Saint Prex, 18
CH 1164 - BUCHILLON 2courson (talk) 10:28, 14 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
@2courson: "libre de droits" ne veut rien dire. En plus c'est contradictoire avec "tous droits réservés". Il faut une autorisation pour une licence libre, de préférence CC-BY-SA-4.0. Yann (talk) 15:43, 14 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Merci, je vais lui demander d'autoriser CC-BY-SA mais probablement NC
Pas d'inconvénient à vos yeux?
Merci 2courson (talk) 12:42, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

About the speedy deletions

Hi, I noticed that recently you have been doing quite a few speedy deletions of categories, such as Category:Historical images of Tainan, Category:Historical images of Taichung, Category:Historical images of Taipei, Category:History of temples in Taiwan, and so on. I understand that you mean well, but I don’t understand the reason behind it.

From my point of view, this could cause confusion in image categorization. For example, historical prints, illustrations, and paintings cannot simply be moved into Historical photographs of XXX, and placing them in History of XXX feels too messy. Some images that take a lot of time to identify and classify, once removed from these categories, become much harder to find.

Also, moving Historical images of temples in Taiwan to History of temples in Taiwan mixes historical images with inscriptions, temple histories, and so on, and it also breaks the connection with Historical images of buildings, such as design drawings and blueprints.

Could you please explain the reason why these deletions meet the criteria for speedy deletion? Thank you. Sin-siōng (talk) 09:26, 12 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Sin-siōng: Hi, I deleted them because they were empty. Now they are not empty any more, so I undeleted them. Please see with User:Adamant1 who made these edits. Thanks, Yann (talk) 14:27, 12 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, sorry I mistakenly thought you are the one who deleted all these categoriesin the first place. Sin-siōng (talk) 02:25, 13 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
For Category:Historical images of Taipei, Adamant1 changed it to "(incorrectly named) duplicate, content moved to Category:History of Taipei". Yann (talk) 14:29, 12 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Notification about possible deletion

Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry.

If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Affected:

And also:

Yours sincerely, JWilz12345 (Talk|Contributions) 00:31, 13 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

File:Max Wegner.jpg

Dear Yann,

At 19:18 Werner von Basil nominated File:Max Wegner.jpg for deletion without creating a Commons:Deletion requests, and the file was deleted immediately in less than 10 minutes. I uploaded the file a long time ago and would like to understand whether I have indeed violated copyright. If so, what was the violation? Is it possible to restore, if not the file itself, then at least its description? Regards, -- Perohanych (talk) 20:37, 14 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Perohanych: Hi, The original source is dead, but I checked Internet Archive, and it was indeed under a free license. Sorry for the inconvenience. Yann (talk) 10:09, 15 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Thank you

Thank you for your long-standing cooperation. Gampe (talk) 13:08, 15 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

File:Col Charles Lindbergh.jpg

By chance do you have the XCF/PSD from your edits? JayCubby (talk) 22:46, 15 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@JayCubby: Here it is: File:Col Charles Lindbergh.xcf. Yann (talk) 04:36, 16 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Many thanks, I'm getting through the restoration. JayCubby (talk) 00:42, 18 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

File:The Original Listenbourg Tweet.jpg

Could you undelete File:The Original Listenbourg Tweet.jpg? The map is public domain, like many in the Listenbourg category. Listenbourg is a popular neme which has entries on multiple wikipedia languages, so it is scope Thegoofhere (talk) 14:22, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

OK, done. Yann (talk) 18:25, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

File:IgualdadEquidad.jpg

Hello Yann,

it appears we have two different CC licenses at the source page [1]. The one at the bottom of the page, CC-BY-NC-SA-2.5-ES, is apparently the one for the complete https://www.waitala.com/ web site, as it appears on every page. The page specifically for the icons however has a second one, in the middle of the page, Esta obra está bajo una licencia de Creative Commons Reconocimiento-CompartirIgual 4.0 Internacional, CC-BY-SA-4.0. This one is at the end of a section about using the icons called ¿Qué puedes hacer con los iconos?. So the icons are under CC-BY-SA-4.0 it seems. Regards --Rosenzweig τ 14:31, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

OK, undeleted. Yann (talk) 18:26, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Category:LC TIF images with categorized JPGs

Do you really not see how File:Child looking out of window of tent home near Sallisaw, Sequoyah County, Oklahoma, 8b22321.tif is connected to File:Child looking out of window of tent home near Sallisaw, Sequoyah County, Oklahoma, 8b22321.jpg? Look near the bottom of the file where it says "Other versions" plus "File usage on Commons" below that also shows it. Krok6kola (talk) 15:42, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Krok6kola: Hi, I know that there are linked. I did it. But I oppose removal of categories and replacing them with "Category:LC TIF images with categorized JPGs". As I said, this category is useless, and I don't see any issue to include the TIFF versions with JPEG files in the same categories. That's the best way to find these images. Regards, Yann (talk) 18:29, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Agree. In this discussion I gave an example. "If I would be looking for a highres image of Nahum Mitchell for a professional book or article about this historical person, I would be looking at Category:Nahum Mitchell. I wouldn't find this very useful image because you removed it from that category, as "duplicates just make categories unnecessarily large" (your words). No, they don't. This is hilarious. "You can always access the TIFF file from the .jpg file" (your words): no, one doesn't. A user looks at the category, and he concludes: no highres present." I would like to have the liberty to replace categories in cases like this without them being removed again. Vysotsky (talk) 19:29, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
I don't care one way or the other now. At the time, Fæ was uploading vast numbers of images per day. This system was appealing to us dealing with this because it helped us cope with the situation. I did not start this category. I believe the idea came from Category:NARA TIF images with categorized JPGs. And if you want to get rid of this category, that is fine with me. Krok6kola (talk) 20:09, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
  • @Vysotsky: You say "A user looks at the category, and he concludes: no highres present."" Do you have any data on what the behavior of "users" is? Or by "users" do you mean other editors on the Commons and not the wider world which presumably the Commons is serving? (My experience with editors on Wikipedia is that they do not think that way. They often seem quite helpless when it comes to the Commons and find it confusing here.) Krok6kola (talk) 01:31, 18 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Drawings by Gospodar 20svemira

Hello, Yann! Would you like to delete these files? (per author's request) You see, Gospodar svemira is my old account and I don't think these files are of any meaning. - Mychele Trempetich (talk) 21:57, 19 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Retouche fichiers d'origine

Bonjour chez Yann,

J'espère que tu vas bien.

On me reproche ici d'avoir retouché une photo (et retiré la cigarette) sous prétexte que cela ne serait pas représentatif du fichier d'origine. J'ai du mal à comprendre car j'utilise les mentions prévues à cet effet pour chaque photo en indiquant précisément comme on me l'a demandé, les modifications apportées.

Chaque fichier d'origine n'est pas forcément adapté à une publication numérique / web. De plus, comme cela est pratiqué depuis toujours, le recadrage, dès lors qu'il est clairement indiqué, n'est pas interdit dans Commons.

La question se pose pour cette photo : [2]. De plus, celui qui a déposé la demande de suppression a également retiré la photo de Barclay recadrée et a réintroduit sur en.WP celle devant être supprimée car n'étant pas une oeuvre anonyme [3].

Merci de ton éclairage. Belle fin de matinée. ;) Tisourcier (talk) 10:39, 20 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Et encore et toujours, la énième remise en question du statut PD des photos du Studio Harcourt par ce contributeur dans ma pdd de en.WP [4]. C'est assez pénible... Il leur siffit de vérifier les licences. :( Tisourcier (talk) 10:51, 20 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Je pense aussi qu'il ne faut pas altérer les images de cette façon. Cette photo est récente, aussi je ne suis pas sûr des droits d'auteur. Yann (talk) 16:04, 20 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

вилучення файлу File:Захар.jpg

I agree with the delated of two files from the resource sourced to https://war.obozrevatel.com/ukr/buv-lyudinoyu-velikogo-sertsya-na-fronti-zaginuv-voin-i-likar-veterinar-zahar-palij-zi-lvova-foto.htm, I didn't understand the rules well enough and uploaded them again, which violated the rules. I agree with the removal of these two files. but the third file (File:Захар.jpg)- with the cat - is a file from a personal archive. The photo has not been published anywhere before. When I uploaded the photo, I indicated that I am the author of the photo. why was the photo deleted?I would be grateful if you could help me understand what I did wrong. Thanks. Tzymbal (talk) 20:13, 20 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Tzymbal: Hi, You mention that the author is unknown. Recent pictures cannot be published on Wikimedia Commons if the author is unknown, as we need a formal written permission from the copyright holder. You can't get this permission if you don't know the author. Yann (talk) 17:25, 21 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Why is logo of Syrian General Intelligence Directorate removed?

This KoningvanDenHaag (talk) 21:05, 21 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@KoningvanDenHaag: Hi, Do you have any evidence that it is not under a copyright? Being a government work doesn't make it automatically in the public domain. Yann (talk) 20:20, 22 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

File:Valeria Cusicanqui IMG 2782.jpg

Thanks for restoring the image. However, I now see that it also shows a copyrighted artwork which is not covered by the permission of the client. I have written to her, asking if that can be fixed, but maybe the image needs to be deleted again in a couple of days. – Sorry for the inconvenience, cheers Mussklprozz (talk) 20:15, 22 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Mussklprozz: Hi, Probably the artwork can be cropped out. Otherwise, just tag it for deletion. Yann (talk) 20:17, 22 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
I can crop it or blur the artwork if a permission form the artist cannot be obtained. But lets wait a couple of days, since this would completely change the character of the image. Mussklprozz (talk) 20:31, 22 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Could you please explain why you issued me a warning and reverted the latest changes to this image? I specifically stated that I decided to leave it as it is to avoid any issues. I even reverted the recent edits on purpose so that it wouldn’t be nominated for deletion. S. Mochar (talk) 08:51, 23 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@S. Mochar: Hi, You can't change the license. As it was said on the Help Desk and on your talk page, the license is irrevocable. Yann (talk) 08:54, 23 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
I’m not changing the license, I’m trying to restore everything as it was. But you’re interfering with this. Please stop. S. Mochar (talk) 09:03, 23 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Explain why I may be blocked soon. On what grounds? S. Mochar (talk) 09:09, 23 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
@S. Mochar: Yes, you changed the license here and here. Yann (talk) 09:12, 23 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
No. Now I want to leave everything as it was. S. Mochar (talk) 09:14, 23 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
@S. Mochar: You uploaded this file under a free license. You can't change that license. This was never under {{self|Cc-by-nc-nd-4.0}} (a non free license). Yann (talk) 09:17, 23 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
YES, I KNOW. I returned everything as it was, UNDER A FREE LICENSE, YES, IT WAS MY MISTAKE. Please stop saying that. Leave me and my image alone. I know I made a mistake, I put it back the way it was. S. Mochar (talk) 09:20, 23 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Remove the 'second-to-last' warning from me, if it’s more than just the text you wrote. I honestly don’t know. This warning was unfair; I haven’t done anything that serious. Please. S. Mochar (talk) 09:27, 23 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

File: Filip Gorazd Martinek

Hey man, we tried three times to upload the photo of Filip Gorazd Martinek, having his page on cswiki. I have his permision to upload and add to the page. Please, move it again, thank you. Lukáš Král (talk) 19:16, 23 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Lukáš Král: Hi, We need a formal written permission from the copyright holder, who is by default the photographer. Please see COM:VRT for the procedure. It also exists in other languages. The file will be undeleted if and when the permission is validated by a volunteer. Thanks, Yann (talk) 19:23, 23 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

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